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| I might be a bit niave, but I have seen a few people mention 'carb loading' -- can someone enlighten me as to what this exactly is and why someone would do it? I know what it sounds like, and it doesn't sound like a very good thing to be doing, so maybe I've got it wrong?
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| Hi Nikki- it is what it sounds like- 'loading' your body up with carbs after a period of restricting them. So it would be like us have a day of high/very high carbs after about 6 days of low carbs. A member 'bigsteve' is doing it. The idea is that it fires up your metabolism to burn those carbs and keep burning (hopefully fat) following the carb spike. Bodybuilders and figure athletes do it. It re-fuels your muscles too. But 'bigsteve' has been monitoring his ketone levels post 'carb-load' and has found that it takes a little while for his body to go back into ketosis. It would be hard to figure out how much weight you would lose by keeping your carbs low and potentially slowing your metabolism vs. spiking with carbs, speeding up metabolism for a period of time, but then not going back into ketosis for a period of time. I don't know the answer, but it is interesting. Also, it wouldn't be a bad thing to make your body adjust to an occasional carb spike, especially if we are going to eat occasional carbs once we are off tf...?
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Thanks for that -- so it is what it sounds like! I have seen a few people mention it around the forums lately. I don't think it's for me, I reckon my body would have a major freak out, but I am interested in how people are using it and why.
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| Some on the forums who refer to it is more of a carb-binge than an actual science - sometimes I think it's just a play on words for eating way too many carbs. If you did it scientifically, like body builders do you would need to eliminate carbs and then measure performance carefully. My body hates processed carbs, I've been eating them all week and feel like crapola - but for some reason that's not enough to help me stop lol. TF isn't really a low carb plan anyway, there's loads of carbs on the plan - just not nasty ones. aaaargh - processed carbs are the devil!
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I'm almost certain I don't go into ketosis
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Heya guys, Yeah carb loading is most often only good for those that are going to do some intense training to build muscle, but also a slight carb load to try to break a plateau after a while in ketosis as mentioned here is apparently good too. (50-100 grams I heard is plenty)
2 weeks ago I carb loaded much more than I planned to (wasn't expecting the pizza but sometimes we can't control every situation :-( )
But Today is my weigh in and the news aint so bad for a simple carb binge.
Im going to be restricting carbs majorly this weekend, and eat lots of protein
117.5kg :-D
Start (some time in August) - 137kg
Friday 16th Oct - 120.8
Friday 30th Oct - 117.5
Thurs 12th Nov - 114.0

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Carbs arent my friends, I will tell you that now....I did Atkins many years ago - and lost 20kg in 7 weeks...with no carb loading.
Yes there were occasions where I upped my carbs, by means of vegetables etc, just to keep the body guessing and not falling into the same daily grind....that way I would never get a stall/plateau. I did 20g a day max of carbs then upped it to 40g, which isnt very much at all. Considering TF is around 100g I would say roughly.
Body builders etc do ALOT of training and there muscles are more effective then lets say myself....and so the carbs are needed so they dont lose muscle gain.
For females, carb loading wouldnt be as effective I wouldnt think.
I think its the right idea to change the amount of carbs you put in, etc...just so your body doesnt get into a routine.
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I've never ever gone into Ketosis when I was following TF diet plan. I had one consultant tell me that 'a trace' doesn't always show on the sticks. But that's actual balony!...I asked the pharmacist directly and he confirmed that the most minute 'trace' does show on Ketostix....it shows as palest pink i.e. trace  Everyone is different, the fact I never went into ketosis to me means I really do have a low tolerance to carbohydrates. You can of course lose weight without being in ketosis.
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| carb loading is the principle rule behind the bodytrim program and it has great success (but like all programs, suits some more than others). You have 6 days of higher protein eating (higher protein to carb ratio in grams, not food calories - big difference in the two) and on the 7th day, it is your 'free day' - this day you can carb load by eating a normal BT meal for breaky and then the other two meals in the day you can have what ever you want. Usually members go overboard on their first few free days and soon realise that like all programs, you still need to be sensible about it. SO have risotto or pasta as a free meal and maybe a scone or something as afternoon tea... TF already supplies a very reasonable level of carbs and you would really overdo it if you tried to carb load with these shakes. Say having the shakes 6 days and carb loading on the 7th - way too many carbs and it would not work.
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